Comments on: Openize Denmark, Parliament Orders http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/ Enterprisey thoughts - John Gøtze Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:22:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: cyberten » Blog Archive » Dinamarca exige estándares abiertos http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-23137 cyberten » Blog Archive » Dinamarca exige estándares abiertos Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:00:15 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-23137 [...] resolución ha llevado un largo proceso de enmiendas, cambios y debates en el Parlamento Danés, ya que en un principio el Gobierno (conservador-liberal) no apoyaba la [...] [...] resolución ha llevado un largo proceso de enmiendas, cambios y debates en el Parlamento Danés, ya que en un principio el Gobierno (conservador-liberal) no apoyaba la [...]

]]> By: Søren Thing Pedersen / Further details on open standards in Denmark http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-23077 Søren Thing Pedersen / Further details on open standards in Denmark Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:38:34 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-23077 [...] and the political debate leading to the parliament resolution John Gøtze has it well covered in Openize Denmark, Parliament Orders. In his post you will find an accurate translation of the resolution as [...] [...] and the political debate leading to the parliament resolution John Gøtze has it well covered in Openize Denmark, Parliament Orders. In his post you will find an accurate translation of the resolution as [...]

]]> By: GotzeBlogged » Blog Archive » http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-17270 GotzeBlogged » Blog Archive » Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:55:21 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-17270 [...] On Friday, the Danish Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation, Helge Sander, made a press announcement (Danish) about his plan for following up on the Parliament Resolution 8 months ago. [...] [...] On Friday, the Danish Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation, Helge Sander, made a press announcement (Danish) about his plan for following up on the Parliament Resolution 8 months ago. [...]

]]> By: Report: Use ODF, Save 550 Million — GotzeBlogged - John Gøtze Archive http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-4262 Report: Use ODF, Save 550 Million — GotzeBlogged - John Gøtze Archive Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:57:11 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-4262 [...] Three politicians from Parliament, Morten Helveg, Morten Messerschmidt and Anne Grete Holmsgaard, participated in the press conference about the report on Monday. These three were the driving forces behind B103, the Parliamentary decision about open standards. All three expressed satisfaction with and support to the report’s recommendations. Messerschmidt even offered to personally bring it over to the Minister of Finance, who on Tuesday will present the Annual Budget. [...] [...] Three politicians from Parliament, Morten Helveg, Morten Messerschmidt and Anne Grete Holmsgaard, participated in the press conference about the report on Monday. These three were the driving forces behind B103, the Parliamentary decision about open standards. All three expressed satisfaction with and support to the report’s recommendations. Messerschmidt even offered to personally bring it over to the Minister of Finance, who on Tuesday will present the Annual Budget. [...]

]]> By: Søren Thing Pedersen » Blog Archive » Further details on open standards in Denmark http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-342 Søren Thing Pedersen » Blog Archive » Further details on open standards in Denmark Mon, 05 Jun 2006 01:18:12 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-342 [...] It is a general resolution on the use of open standards in the public sector by 2008 (or ASAP). Though there are no direct references to ODF the political discussion has more often than not been on the subject of the need for open document format. In the proposal an open standard is defined as “1) well documented, 2) freely implementable without economical, political or legal limitations in both implementation and use, 3) standardised and maintained in an open proces in an open forum.” (again, my translation). I have noticed that the wording is similar to the definition of open standards from a group of Danish NGOs (in english). Currently, members of parliament are discussing what impact the resolution might or might not have. This is mainly interior politics.  If you are interested in Danish interior politics and the debate leading to the parliament resolution John Gøtze has it well covered in Openize Denmark, Parliament Orders. In his post you will find an accurate translation of the resolution as well. [...] [...] It is a general resolution on the use of open standards in the public sector by 2008 (or ASAP). Though there are no direct references to ODF the political discussion has more often than not been on the subject of the need for open document format. In the proposal an open standard is defined as “1) well documented, 2) freely implementable without economical, political or legal limitations in both implementation and use, 3) standardised and maintained in an open proces in an open forum.” (again, my translation). I have noticed that the wording is similar to the definition of open standards from a group of Danish NGOs (in english). Currently, members of parliament are discussing what impact the resolution might or might not have. This is mainly interior politics.  If you are interested in Danish interior politics and the debate leading to the parliament resolution John Gøtze has it well covered in Openize Denmark, Parliament Orders. In his post you will find an accurate translation of the resolution as well. [...]

]]> By: John Gøtze http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-341 John Gøtze Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:53:21 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-341 First, please note that there is no new law; it is a parliamentary resolution. In many ways I see a resolution as more powerful than a law. Lobbying? Of course there was lobbying. On the official record is only Microsoft. They requested a meeting with the Science Committee, and presented their views on open standards at a (closed) meeting on May 24. In the letter they wrote to the committee, Microsoft informs the committee that Office Open XML is an open document standard. Talk about cutting to the chesse; nevermind that the resolution is not (just) about document formats. Microsoft argued that they wanted to dicuss with the committee how to ensure as much freedom of choice to citizens and businesses in their communication with government, i.e., the old "one standard is good, but two are better" song. First, please note that there is no new law; it is a parliamentary resolution. In many ways I see a resolution as more powerful than a law.

Lobbying? Of course there was lobbying. On the official record is only Microsoft. They requested a meeting with the Science Committee, and presented their views on open standards at a (closed) meeting on May 24. In the letter they wrote to the committee, Microsoft informs the committee that Office Open XML is an open document standard. Talk about cutting to the chesse; nevermind that the resolution is not (just) about document formats.

Microsoft argued that they wanted to dicuss with the committee how to ensure as much freedom of choice to citizens and businesses in their communication with government, i.e., the old “one standard is good, but two are better” song.

]]> By: Bob McIlree http://gotze.eu/2006/06/04/openize-denmark-parliament-orders/comment-page-1/#comment-340 Bob McIlree Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:25:37 +0000 http://gotze.eu/2006/06/openize-denmark-parliament-orders.html#comment-340 John - Was there any noticable lobbying or pressure on your legislators to vote against the proposed law by software vendors? I'm curious because had this issue come up in the American Congress, it is sure bet that these entities (Microsoft, Oracle, etc.) would apply immense pressure and funds to get a bill crafted to their liking - if one would pass at all. I don't know how your politics works over there in Denmark, but I'm very interested to learn how the vendors acted while this was on your Parliament's docket. Best regards, Bob McIlree John – Was there any noticable lobbying or pressure on your legislators to vote against the proposed law by software vendors? I’m curious because had this issue come up in the American Congress, it is sure bet that these entities (Microsoft, Oracle, etc.) would apply immense pressure and funds to get a bill crafted to their liking – if one would pass at all. I don’t know how your politics works over there in Denmark, but I’m very interested to learn how the vendors acted while this was on your Parliament’s docket.

Best regards,
Bob McIlree

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